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Title: NEWS FLASH: Heavy Rain is probably going to be horrible
Post by: isfet on January 25, 2010, 09:07:23 AM
first evidence:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-MOJJ5dLdk&feature=player_embedded


oops!  you messed up your lipstick.  TRY AGAIN


and my second evidence!

oh shit, lol, it got taken down from youtube. 

well, it was the first 9 minutes of the game.  what did we see in that time?  decide whether or not to get up from the bed!  go use the bathroom!  start shaving!  brush your teeth by shaking the PS3 controller up and down!  listen to horrible dialogue like "i should put on my clothes before i go downstairs!"  gee, thanks in-game narrative!


there's a part of me that believes this kind of game might not be a terrible idea in general, but this is not the game to prove that theory.


Title: Re: NEWS FLASH: Heavy Rain is probably going to be horrible
Post by: dmauro on January 25, 2010, 09:46:57 AM
No idea what we're talking about here. Someone's making another Shenmue?


Title: Re: NEWS FLASH: Heavy Rain is probably going to be horrible
Post by: isfet on January 25, 2010, 09:56:47 AM
haha, yea, kinda sorta.  it's a game from Dave Cage, the creator of Omikron and Farenheit (two PC games i never actually played). 

there was this tech demo of the game circulating on youtube a few years ago.  it was like, an uncanny valley interview with a woman sitting in a chair.  she gets progressively more agitated and then pulls a gun on the cameraman or something like that.  anyway, visually i'm pretty impressed with the game, but it's looking pretty boring, game wise.


Title: Re: NEWS FLASH: Heavy Rain is probably going to be horrible
Post by: isfet on January 25, 2010, 10:18:00 AM
reality check for me:   i actually really liked Shenmue.  well, what i played of it.  i stopped playing when i got up to the part where you get a job at the docks.  apparently there was...forklift racing?  yea, stopped around that point. 

but at least Shenmue was QTEs + Virtua Fighter + Space Harrier in the arcade + GTA.  Heavy Rain is looking to be ALL QTEs.  that might work for Dragon's Lair, but this doesn't seem to be a fast-paced and witty 80s animated film feature.


Title: Re: NEWS FLASH: Heavy Rain is probably going to be horrible
Post by: FortNinety on January 25, 2010, 11:27:57 AM
This is all that needs to be said about the game Joe: lol, French game makers. Trust me, I know from experience!

Must admit, the interface looks interesting, but it's still not enough for me to touch the thing. Yeah, I'm pretty fucking tired of hearing about this game. I just want it to come out already and be done with.


Title: Re: NEWS FLASH: Heavy Rain is probably going to be horrible
Post by: FortNinety on January 25, 2010, 12:05:10 PM
Also, regarding Shenmue, it's a game that had to happen, so others can learn from its mistakes. Which makes the existence of Heavy Rain especially baffling. $20 says that it was directly influenced by it, and has simply taken this long to get made. Mind you, that doesn't mean it's aged like fine wine. The big time French game makers are just stubborn like that and want shit their way, no matter what. In the end, looks to be some shitty idea of what an interactive experience should be, circa 2001, with 2010 gloss.

And I can bash the French freely due to knowing and being pals with so many French Canadians, who will all back me up 1000%.


Title: Re: NEWS FLASH: Heavy Rain is probably going to be horrible
Post by: drozdal on January 25, 2010, 01:36:57 PM
It's 2010 and with all that progress with graphics and game engines character models (like that girl in the video)  still walk like robots (same animation over and over) and turn like forklifts. Just look how she turns to the bathroom.

I like the idea of the game that simulates more common and mundane aspects of everyday life. I do not know if I actually enjoy playing it.


Title: Re: NEWS FLASH: Heavy Rain is probably going to be horrible
Post by: FortNinety on January 25, 2010, 03:04:25 PM
I'm fairly certain that the Sims has managed to capture the mundane and made it as enjoyable as possible in a video game setting as it's going to get.


Title: Re: NEWS FLASH: Heavy Rain is probably going to be horrible
Post by: drozdal on January 25, 2010, 05:14:53 PM
I'm fairly certain that the Sims has managed to capture the mundane and made it as enjoyable as possible in a video game setting as it's going to get.
Yes, indeed. But Sims do not force you to participate in (pre scripted? and QTE heavy) mundane all the time. It's obvious that creators of Heavy Rain are not going after Sims fans, rather are trying to create more immersive (thanks to those QTE's) crime story.


Title: Re: NEWS FLASH: Heavy Rain is probably going to be horrible
Post by: meronkun on February 05, 2010, 02:20:36 PM
Wasn't the charm of Indigo Prophecy the sarcasm? Although it got over the top at the end...

Heavy Rain seems to heavily live up to its predecessor in that sense. I'm really psyched.
TOO PSYCHED.


Title: Re: NEWS FLASH: Heavy Rain is probably going to be horrible
Post by: isfet on February 08, 2010, 10:30:38 AM
having not played IP, i can't really comment

but stuff like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioKSBbnMs0U

and especially this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iu8J8LEJGUM


makes me...kind of on the cautious side of things.  also, where is the "smack the shit out of your son" or the "stay the fuck still or i'll beat your ass" button?


Title: Re: NEWS FLASH: Heavy Rain is probably going to be horrible
Post by: meronkun on February 08, 2010, 10:39:30 AM
This more than lives up to my expectations!

Indigo Prophecy was like 100% brilliant and fun and at the same time 100% lol about the gameplay.
I can't describe it, but that's why it was profound.
The controls were as ridiculous as they could have imagined.
The gameplay stats like your sanity meter were basically pure nonsense.
It's how I learned never to mix meds with alcohol...


Title: Re: NEWS FLASH: Heavy Rain is probably going to be horrible
Post by: isfet on February 08, 2010, 12:16:57 PM
you raise an interesting point; i might be looking at this game all wrong (i.e. correctly).

i think it could be sort of fun to not take seriously whatsoever and just make horrible decisions throughout the game, but maybe when it's no longer $60.

the demo is out on Thursday, anyhow, so we'll see how it feels.


Title: Re: NEWS FLASH: Heavy Rain is probably going to be horrible
Post by: The Drunken Samurai on February 10, 2010, 12:55:09 PM
http://kotaku.com/5468585/heavy-rain-review-no-wrong-conclusion

i should probably play it before i take jabs at it but.....

Quote
A trigger moves the character forward, while a control stick guides them. Camera angles are fixed, often for the best view but, unconventional in modern games, often not behind the back.

killer fucking 7


Title: Re: NEWS FLASH: Heavy Rain is probably going to be horrible
Post by: FortNinety on February 10, 2010, 02:20:36 PM
Note: Steve's a great guy, but he also hated NMH2, which as I've stated a few times already, is the first legit contender for GOTY 2010.

And after finishing any Suda 51 game, I have the urge to give Killer 7 another chance, but I know what will happen; I'll get bored and frustrated by the controls. But at least it seems less French than Heavy Rain.


Title: Re: NEWS FLASH: Heavy Rain is probably going to be horrible
Post by: dmauro on February 10, 2010, 02:25:18 PM
I finally watched this video. So is this the first transgender protagonist in a big budget game?


Title: Re: NEWS FLASH: Heavy Rain is probably going to be horrible
Post by: FortNinety on February 11, 2010, 07:59:56 PM
lol...

http://www.heavy.com/post/press-x-to-boring-titty-scene-random-youtube-user-regarding-heavy-rain-3677

... btw, the demo just finished downloading! Though I'm gonna wait till Katie gets home before playing, so we can both have a good laugh.


Title: Re: NEWS FLASH: Heavy Rain is probably going to be horrible
Post by: isfet on February 12, 2010, 10:24:58 AM
oh wow, i forgot about the demo!  i mean, i spent most of yesterday setting up and playing GGPO, so it was probably time better spent, but i guess i'll download this tonight and laugh it up.  maybe i'll get some beers.


Title: Re: NEWS FLASH: Heavy Rain is probably going to be horrible
Post by: FortNinety on February 12, 2010, 12:08:08 PM
For anyone interested...

http://www.heavy.com/post/heavy-rain-demo-impressions-3679


Title: Re: NEWS FLASH: Heavy Rain is probably going to be horrible
Post by: dmauro on February 23, 2010, 02:53:19 PM
My roommate picked this up. It was weird how I was able to immediately recognize it knowing next to nothing about the game. I guess it's just really easy for me to spot games I don't like.

I might give this a go though just to post some impressions.


Title: Re: NEWS FLASH: Heavy Rain is probably going to be horrible
Post by: dhex on February 23, 2010, 07:40:29 PM
hey matt, is there a way to comment on heavy.com without having facebook?


Title: Re: NEWS FLASH: Heavy Rain is probably going to be horrible
Post by: FortNinety on February 23, 2010, 08:03:32 PM
Umm, I do not know. And if not... that would certainly explain why NO ONE has posted a comment, ever!

Perhaps I shouldn't admit this, but truth be told, the whole site is a technical nightmare, but I do I believe it's being fixed.